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So.. I haven't really had the chance to write this up fully... I've been to busy and my sister has been in town, but mAndrea's most recent blog entry really takes the cake. In it, while throwing some pretty nasty stereotypes around and catching them with mockery and derision, she has this lovely blurb.


A second point is that transfolk confuse subjective life experience (which is merely a perception or opinion) with validation of the ideology guiding that perception. Since they can’t or won’t accept that the definition of ideology does indeed apply to transgenderism, they perceive any negative criticism of that ideology as a personal attack. But in reality, a “subjective life experience” only proves that the person feels a certain way; emotions are not objective truth.

This is a logic problem, folks. If the transgendered are going to claim that “subjective life experience” proves that the underlying ideology guiding that life experience is valid, then the following are true as well: The life experience of pedophiles proves that sex with children is beneficial to pedophiles and as a consequence society should be looking for ways to mitigate the harm to children who are raped by pedophiles so that the benefit to pedophiles can continue. The life experience of females who have been raped by every male relative they know proves that all men are rapists and as a consequence all men should be leashed. The life experience of rapists prove that rape is good. The life experience of transitioning proves that transitioning is good. The life experience of alcoholics proves that they feel relief and more relaxed when other people stop trying to take away their bottle.


... so ... i'm a pedophile rapist who has a drinking problem? Wow. I never realized.

Date: 2008-09-15 10:57 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] lisaquestions.livejournal.com
She's writing hate speech, nothing more. It's an ontological house of cards. She keeps focusing on how trans people have subjective experiences and how those experiences are only bad for trans people because she doesn't really want to deal with anyone pointing out that her observations are entirely subjective and completely biased.

Date: 2008-09-16 12:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eclexia.livejournal.com
Yeah I know.

The ironic thing is that some of the things that convinced me the most about feminism being real and necessary were completely subjective. It was the difference between my perception and their perception of events that opened my eyes.

Date: 2008-09-16 12:46 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] lisaquestions.livejournal.com
Yes.

Also, objectivity is a favorite tool of oppression. The idea that you can look at a situation and weigh both sides equally always favors those with privilege, and that's how Andrea is using objectivity.

Where subjectivity is describing your own experiences, which must be dismissed. Never mind that Andrea's descriptions of her interactions with trans people not educating her enough are also subjective. It's her privilege that leads her to think her experiences carry more weight than yours or mine.

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