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The term "race baiter" as a way to describe someone who is calling out something offensive bugs me. Its use implies that someone who speaks up is using the color of their skin or their ethnicity as bait to lure in the poor unsuspecting white person so they can pounce. As if there is some prize for speaking up. You know, catch your 100th white person and you level up your angry stats! I hear if you get to level 20 you get the gauntlets of Whitey squashing!

No. 90% of the time you are ignored, or called oversensitive, yelled at, or mobbed. I've experienced it when talking about GLBT issues, and most significantly trans issues. I've been a secondary target in multiple places when talking about racism, and it's only worse when your actually in the under-privileged group in question.

Am I queer baiting if I call out someone for using homophobic language, objecting to the use of the word fag or gay in a pejorative manner?
How about class baiting?
No?

Then why race baiting?


The idea that people are spending there entire lives just looking for the next bit of racism they can pounce on, is absurd. I don't live my life looking for homophobia or transphobia. I don't have too. It makes itself VERY evident. Racism is the same way. If you don't call it out, you sit and suffer in silence behind a mask. If you just can't take it any more you are labeled a trouble maker with a big mouth. What a prize. Yay.

Date: 2009-05-19 06:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] evildagmar.livejournal.com
Your argument fails on the basis of it being unsupported by fact.

There's the issue of the Texas politician who responded to the description of his department as a "black hole" by saying it was a "white hole" and claiming the person making the original claim was racist.

There's the issue of the dental post-grad that was on CNN a few nights ago because he was booted from the school for "conduct unbecoming a student" after in his Cultural Diversity class, when they were asked to describe themselves in the broadest terms possible, said that he was "White, African, American". *After* the class, some people not there had a problem with it, and complained to the school--who asked him to retract what he said. In response he wrote an article in the school paper explaining his statement and offering to apologize to anyone who was genuinely offended by it. They expelled him for it. He's "white" in that he's third-generation Portugese (which makes him white by most people's reckoning), was born and raised in Africa (which makes him African) and emigrated to the US and became a citizen after being accepted into NYU, which makes him American. His *lawyer* is the one who is having to find out who at the school was calling for his expulsion, because the campus won't even tell him who it was so he could try and sort them out privately in a non-lawsuit kinda way.

...and there's Al Sharpton.

I can't make this stuff up.

Date: 2009-05-19 07:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eclexia.livejournal.com
And yet you still fail to address the actual core of my argument. By using this term you are asserting not that the person or persons in question are oversensitive or seeing offense where there is none, but that they are actively using their race as bait to try and trip any white (or other) person who happens to pass by.

Let me say this again. You are saying they are actively and intentionally using their race to cause people to interact with them, in order to attack said victim in an unprovoked manner.

Not just being oversensitive. Which is a whole 'nother discussion

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